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Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Patricia, I am very excited to have you here today! Welcome to Zurich!
Patricia Arquette: Thank you for having me!
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Thank you very much for coming! You’re a guest that doesn’t really need an introduction, but please just let’s mention a few of your — you’re an Oscar winner, Emmy award winner, Golden Globe winner. But you’re also a mother, you are also an activist, you are very supportive of gender equality and much more. You’re active in Haiti, you’re doing things on water sanitation. But of all these things, what are you most and what is most close to your heart?
Patricia Arquette: Well, I think being a mother is probably the number 1 thing for me. I mean, I’ve always wanted to be a mother, when I was 4 years old, I was running around and somebody asked me what do you want to be when you grow up and I said a mom. So that’s I guess closest to me, but in many ways, I think that that leads through to different parts of my life. For instance, my work with our NGO givelove.org. we do ecological sanitation in the developing world. And we are working now in seven different countries, we have a lot of projects in Uganda right now, Kenya. We help kids in school so they have access to public toilets and I think that’s part of my maternal heart. But also, my gender equality overlaps with that, because we’re working with some of the poorest people on Earth and some of these women, they don’t have access to a bathroom. So when they go to the bathroom, this public toilet that they have to pay for, they can be raped on their way. We just put in a toilet for this woman — she’s 71 years old and she loves it so much. It’s right next to her house and she says I don’t have to go outside. They hit you on the head, they rob you, they rape you. And I just felt like my god! You know? You’re 71 years old, I don’t want you to have to worry about being raped anymore. You’re alive! So that’s sisterhood, but that’s also my maternal part so I think my maternal aspect and even in gender equality as a woman, and maternally also, in a sisterhood way, I know in America the lack of equal pay for women really devastates women, especially single moms. We know that half the children living in poverty in America wouldn’t be if their moms were paid their full dollar. So it’s funny when you start looking at these things and learning more about them, how much they learn and they overlap on one another.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: So really, you’re very active in many different aspects and you’re trying to contribute and it’s all about purpose, what you do actually in the end. What I’m really interested in hearing more about, your NGO, give love. So what was the driver that you founded that NGO and what are your activities?
Patricia Arquette: When we first started working in Haiti after the 2010 earthquake and when we went there, we were gonna build this sustainable village. So I found affordable water filtration devices and I started researching sanitation and I decided on this specific type of sanitation compost sanitation, thermo filling composting. So it treats and kills pathogens and waste and then you end up with compost that you can then amend the soil. So you know, with climate change that soil degradation is expediently getting worse. And that there will be less water and more extreme weather conditions. So when we’re able to treat soil with compost, we know that it retains more of its nutrients, we don’t lose our top soil and the fertility of the land of very important. So what I found was — and it’s so funny cause I’m an actor and I work in this very glamorous profession, but nobody really wanted to work in sanitation. And it’s such an important thing, every person goes to the bathroom every day. It’s the number one pollutant to water sources, the lack of sanitation. The lack of sanitation, water born disease kills more children under 5 than AIDS, malaria and tuberculosis worldwide combined. So I thought well I’m not afraid of working in this sector and I think it’s really important that we work in this sector. When I first started doing aid work, the funny thing was it had just been a shift in the way people thought about aid and they had decided that every kind of aid project had to be sustainable, but the criteria they came up with actually was unsustainable. But they started to say — every aid mission had to have a business component. And that’s just not really possible when you’re working with the world’s poorest people. They have no disposable income, none whatsoever. I’ve met women who said these are my 3 kids, this one eats on Monday, that one eats on Tuesday, that one eats on Wednesday, this one eats again on Thursday, Friday, Saturday. They don’t have any money to deal with these things. Some business model is not gonna work for these people. So I think that we have to get realistic. If we have to have sustainable ways of looking at human, mankind, and if we want to figure out sustainable ways that we can maintain our planet and our resources, then we need to think about realistically what we’re expecting from sustainability.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: I appreciate you mentioned the aspect of sustainability but before going into that, I would like to have a follow up question with regards to the people that you worked with in Haiti. So with your activities, you’ve been to Haiti and I’m sure you have met in the field a lot of traumatized people. So how did you deal with the issues that you were faced there?
Patricia Arquette: Well thank you for asking that. Yes, I mean we worked in Tahiti and I’ve seen people in 10 camps, trauma, kids at school, their trauma. Any of them were living away from home cause they live in rural communities and the walk is too far every day. I’ve never been to Switzerland before.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Welcome!
Patricia Arquette: So this work has brought me all around the world, we have a lot of projects in Kenya and Uganda and it’s an incredible thing when you get to meet people in the field, who are impacted by the work that you do. And your work in mental health has a crossover. It’s like a van-diagram, right? We see a lot of people that have PTSD from multiple things, we work also, we have one project in Uganda, in a megaslum. So it’s a flood zone, and these people are polio survivors so they have to pay people to carry them to the public toilets far away. And when it rains, they won’t carry them. So many of them are married and they have children, their wives have a huge burden of responsibility to care for all of these people. It just changes their life when they have a bathroom. To see the trauma the people go through to not have a bathroom, their children die sometimes or their children are very sick, they can be raped, will drop out of school. It’s really traumatic when you see and it’s so beautiful when you see how much it means to them. And the burden that’s lifted from them when you’re able to do this work. Having said that, even as caretakers, we have PTSD. Because I have had to see things that I never thought I’d have to see in the world, in the human condition. And whole people and be there to hold their pain. And I think sometimes, when you’re a caretaker or you do this work, you yourself absorb some PTSD because you feel powerless sometimes. Because the need is really great and there’s only so much that you can do.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: And how do you deal in situations like that?
Patricia Arquette: I think that I fail a lot of times in taking care of myself. Because if I see women or kids or elderly or people who have handicap issues in these situations, I put them so much higher on my list than my own self. So I think I’m out of balance and I think mental health is really important and I think I need to pay more attention to that, dealing with my own PTSD from experiences in my life, losses that I’ve had, traumas that I had and then also the work that I do, absorbing the trauma of those that I work with.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: You mentioned yourself you come from a very glamorous industry. You have situations where you’re an award winner, but do you have sometimes, an emotional reaction after having such a shiny, positive experience, what happens afterwards? Because sometimes, people report that they fall into a depression or a sadness phase. Can you share how this is — amongst colleagues or how this is absorbed in the industry?
Patricia Arquette: Well certainly, when I first came back from Haiti, I had such a disconnect from my every day life, and what I was looking at in the world around me. I didn’t know how to even bring them together. I felt like saying to my kids, everyone, we have so much, we have too much. We have so much, these kids have nothing. You don’t understand! I was really in a panic, it was very hard for me to sleep at night cause I was worrying about these kids and where they were and did they have food to eat or water to drink? I’ve even got myself sick physically because if you’re in a 10 camp or certain environment, you’re in the blazing hot, you bring out a bottle of water to drink and there’s 40 kids there that are begging for your water and I just say I can’t drink water in front of kids who have no water. So I was giving them all the water and then I ended up getting a giant kidney stone which was really painful and they said you’re dehydrated. I don’t know how to balance this, how to do that. I think I’ve gotten better at it at a certain extent and I think you, as a caretaker, need to learn to take care of yourself or you can’t take care of others. And I’m very grateful what my celebrity has been able to do, cause it’s helped me to raise funds for this war. So I don’t know that I would be as effective in the field if I didn’t have my celebrity. So I feel like maybe that’s my secret weapon and I’m grateful for it.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Amazing! But how do you manage in those two extremes, right? On the one side, you are in the field, really seeing people dying and then you are going back to LA, and the celebrity world. These are two extremes, how do you combine them?
Patricia Arquette: Well they are two extremes and then there’s a third component to that, which is my work as an actor and my work as an actor leads to my celebrity, right? But my work as an actor is the work of human emotions. Human beings going through certain experiences and denials and having maybe character flaws or some character traits and unprocessed traumas and addictions and all these different things. So I also get to really explore the human experience through my parts. So I feel like through the three of these, I think maybe my acting work also helps me process my work in the field. And then I end up getting accolades for that, which I never expected. Just from doing that work, which is really the story of human beings, right?
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Which would be the most challenging role that you had — challenging in the sense that it touched you most?
Patricia Arquette: Well it’s funny cause I think there’s been many challenges. First I was so self-critical and terrified that I think just to show up on a project, learn my lines, learn how film worked, even though I felt I wasn’t good at it yet, I felt like I was clumsy, I was making mistakes. It’s hard to show you when you feel you’re bad at something or you have a lot to learn, but I pushed myself through that anyway. So trying to learn how to be gentle with yourself, make space for failure, in acting you also have to learn to deal with criticism, the whole world criticizes you. And also rejection because often times, you don’t get a part. Even if you did a great job, there were a few auditions there that I thought I know I did the best job, I know. I know I did. But you still don’t get the part and you have to deal with disappointment and a lot of the different things.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: So maybe you can share a little bit regards to gender equality in the film industry, I would be very curious to hear about it.
Patricia Arquette: You know, I think that we’re all subconsciously biased and I think we’ve grown up — I’m the product of parents who were born at a certain time, when the world was very different. And I didn’t grow up in a home where we really talked about feminism or anything like that. Again, it was my dream to be a mom and a wife. And I had a very old fashion sense of things. It was really just through experience in the world that I started to understand the impact of gender inequality. And yeah, certainly, economically, I was a single mom at 20 and I was worried about buying diapers and food and how I was gonna do that. But even more than that, I think those subtle levels, there’s many different ways I think, that we’ve just accepted gender biased without really questioning it.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: During my preparation time, I have read that you wanted to initially become a nun.
Patricia Arquette: Yeah, that too! That came later, after I wanted to be a mom, somehow I wanted to be a nun. Yes, that’s true, yeah.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: And you also grew up in a hippy environment. How did that impress you and how did that form you?
Patricia Arquette: Well, I think because I grew up on a com when I was very little, I had a relationship with nature. I got and played with my friends every day and we’d climb tress and lay in the grass in the fields and make little forts and things like that. We weren’t distracted so much, there wasn’t social media, there wasn’t computers, there wasn’t any of that. So my relationship to nature I think was very healing and informative for me and I still find when I’m really stressed out that if I go for a long hike or something, it really reconnects me. Just smelling nature and trees and looking at a little flower blossoming out of a little crack in a rock or something. It’s so beautiful. Somehow it makes me feel very connected to my humanness.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: It’s interesting you used the word humanness, during my research I realized that you are, although in this glamorous world, you are still very human and you also present yourself very human. Is there enough space in your career to show the human part of yourself? One very interesting information I read about you, when you were younger, your parents offered to correct your teeth which now is a brand of yours, a character. And this is very special in that industry, to show your human side and also not always to be perfect. I mean perfection is always a matter of definition, but you are very human kind of character that you are. So how do you take space and how do you take care of yourself in that industry, still giving space to that humanity side of yourself?
Patricia Arquette: Well I think it’s a really contradictory industry and again, I think that’s where a lot of gender bias comes into play. Because when I grew up really, as an actress, I started as a young woman, there was a huge expectation of what you were supposed to look like. Even until very recently, we haven’t been having the conversation in this business about what you questioning those norms. What am I supposed to look like as a 51 year old woman? Am I supposed to look like a 30 year old woman to be an actor? Why is that? Does every woman have to look like a 30 year when they’re 50 years old? Who came up with this idea? So I think we’re just starting in Hollywood to have this conversation. I feel like it’s been a little different in Europe frankly. You’ve had older actors who had a lot of respect but even they, I would say Sophia Lauren was still expected to be a sex symbol or Catherine Deneuve for many years. It’s a new conversation I think. I was a radical, as a young person to say. I mean I was lucky I fit into that mold enough that I got work, but I pushed back as much as I could. Like why do I have to have straight teeth? Why can’t I be curvy? Because at the time, that also wasn’t acceptable. So I don’t know, it’s been definitely a strange ride, I’ll say. Looking at myself as a woman, as a changing woman, as a young woman, as a woman getting older, through the view of the industry around me, through the view of society, having to go in deeper, think for myself, how do I feel about this? But I do think that my mom was probably my biggest influence, she was a model when she was younger, very very beautiful but she was also a very natural woman and there was only a few times that I even saw her wear make up at all. You know? A few nights I went out with my dad for special events and she put on lipstick or something. It was incredibly rare. So I think she was a sort of model for me of natural beauty or self-acceptance. And I think it was really important to my dad too. I tell the story sometimes. My brother and I were fighting about something and I said something snarky and kind of sassy to him that I thought was funny and he said Patricia, you’re not funny. And my dad pulled him aside and I don’t know what my dad said to him, but then many years later, my brother said — come over here, Rich. And he said listen, your sister will grow up to be a beautiful woman and she doesn’t even know that. And I don’t ever want you to take away her sense of humor, because the world will try to take so many things away from her. And make her just think that her beauty is the only thing that she has to offer. So I never want you to try to control your sister’s personality or tell her that she’s not funny or not smart or anything. So I know that it also came from my dad, it was — my mom and dad were very in tune for wanting me as a young woman to be my full self.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Seems like your parents were very much forward thinking during their times. When we speak about gender equality or inequality today, right?
Patricia Arquette: Well in many ways. It’s funny because yes, they wanted that for me, but they were also very traditional and my mom was in a subservient position in a way where she was economically very much dependent on my father. Even to make choices with their income, their family income, she really had to go to him a lot. She wasn’t an equal in that way and even as brilliant as she was, she went to college at 16, she was very aware that if she left my dad, she wouldn’t really have opportunities to make enough money to raise 5 kids. So I think she was at a great disadvantage and a lot had to do with her gender. So it was funny, cause they were in many ways events and open and in other ways, they were also sort of creatures of their own time they were born in and all of that.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Patricia, what would be your message to the women out there? I know we’ve spoken about gender equality or inequality or gender pay gap. If you would give an advice to someone, what would it be, as a woman in today’s world with all those expectations and pressures and fears and trauma?
Patricia Arquette: Well I think it would be the same advice I give myself. Like look at your own needs also, in this scenario. What do you need to take care of yourself also? But my advice I think for men and women would be let’s try to examine these long standing subconscious biases we have. And understand that we actually do need to make a shift and it might feel radical at first, it might seem like too much, too fast, but it’s not too much too fast. With the me too movement, with talk about equal pay and gender equality, we’re seeing a shift in behavior and expectations and I think that that’s really positive. But there’s many areas I know I haven’t even looked at about gender equality and gender discrimination, subconscious biased. So I think we just keep having to look at it and I know men and women want that for our daughters, we want a different future, a different reality. Because as much as we talk about these things, there’s still very few women at the top, on boards of Fortune 500 companies. A lot in Europe, but we don’t even have parity in our government with women. There’s still the majority of nurses and teachers are women. Those fields tend to be underpaid, you will get paid less money for taking care of a child than you will for parking someone’s car in America. If you’re a janitor, which is usually a male job, or a maid which is often times a female job, you will get paid more to be a janitor. So even in the same field, you will see that there’s gender disparity and pay gaps in largely the same occupation.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Now that you’re taking care of so many people, how do you take care of yourself in the end?
Patricia Arquette: I do a very bad job of taking care of myself. Yeah, it’s really bad. Yeah, that is really what I need to work on. And I think it’s kind of amazing — I’ve been thinking a lot about mental health lately and emotional health and recharging and replenishing yourself. I know it’s something I’ve done a really bad job of and my kids and my boyfriend, that’s their main criticism of me. Like stop taking care of everybody else! Take care of yourself! You need a break! You can’t take care of everybody and everything all the time. And I haven’t learned to say no to a lot of things. It’s hard for me, because there’s so many things I want to do in the world. So many great groups doing so many wonderful things, but I do realize that sometimes I tend to overextend myself.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: And in situations like that, how do you deal with the situations? Is there a routine that you do or is there — you go somewhere, someplace or do you meditate? Is there something that when you’re in a distress situation that helps you to manage the situation?
Patricia Arquette: Usually I actually push it to so it’s so far gone that I either get sick and I have to lay in bed and god just kind of knocks me off me feet and says no, lay down for a while. I often — I don’t know, I see myself as sort of some robot or some soldier or something that can — you know, I can fight for everyone’s battles, but I never recognize when I’m exhausting myself for me so it’s really something that I need to work on. And I think it’s something I actually came in this life to have to learn, so I’m not good at it, I’m just not good at it. And that’s not an excuse, it’s very much a flaw I think, that I really need to pay attention to.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: I’ve seen your very impressive presentation when you went in front of the congress with regards to women’s rights. It was a very touching and impressive speech that you gave there. You have been very active and for a long time, in that field. Can you please share a little bit were there any progress after your speech and what were the feedbacks that you received?
Patricia Arquette: Well thank you for bringing that up and actually when you said that, it made me think how much I internalize trauma, fear, PTSD. It’s such an important thing being in front of congress. So many activists have been working on getting women in the constitution and ensuring that women have equal rights in the USA. They’ve been working on this for a generation, two generations. Since the beginning of our country really, women have been trying to have equal rights in America. So I felt this huge responsibility and in the days leading up to it, my blood pressure was incredibly high, I was so stressed out about it and I was afraid I’d make a mistake but it was the first time that congress had heard an argument for women to be in the equal rights, to have the equal rights amendment and being in the constitution for 36 years, it was the first time they had a hearing like that. So it’s an incredible amount of responsibility and I had a lot of fear around it. But exciting things are happening. So around the 70’s when the equal rights amendment didn’t pass, everything kind of stalled out. They were three states short of ratifying it, but in the last few years, 2 states have just ratified it. So now we’re one short. When I grew up, when I live in a hippy commune, I lived in Virginia, I was born in Chicago, in Illinois. Illinois recently ratified, California was the first state that ratified it, that’s where I live now. So I’ve two of the states I’ve grew up in now have ratified. The one that hasn’t is Virginia, but amazing things are happening right now in Virginia, because the democrats had all the votes that they needed to ratify in Virginia, but the speaker of the house in Virginia was a republican and he refused to let the vote come to the floor. But now, it’s changed hands and the democrats are now in control and one of the first things they’re gonna do is vote on ratifying the equal rights amendment. So once that happens, it has to go back to congress and right now congress is writing up a bill to rescind the deadline and if they rescind the deadline, it’s gonna be difficult, because it will pass in the house of representatives probably but it won’t pass probably right now in the senate, because it’s republican run, you know, the majority are republicans. But in the next election, if that changes, and if the Democrats win over the senate, then they will pass and women will be in the constitution of the United States of America and why that’s important is — when we were talking about subconscious bias, there’s a lot of laws people don’t know about in different states in America that have bias. For instance, in some states, a woman can be forced to co-parent with their convicted rapist. That’s a crazy thing, right? And many states, they had a backlog of rape kits and that means when a woman gets raped, they take the forensic evidence, it was just sitting on shelves, they just found 1700 yesterday that had been sitting for maybe up to 30 years on a shelf in Minnesota in Minneapolis. So it’s to examine how’s our funding and why are you not funding rape kits processing? Is it because the majority of the victims are women? So it’s gonna have a lot of impacts I think, for women, across the board. And I think it’s really critical.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Absolutely! You are doing work that is not only for the US but for the world and all the women around the world, it has been very inspirational for a lot of women out there.
Patricia Arquette: Thank you!
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: You have mentioned a few times the word fear, that you were afraid when you were standing there, presenting that. Can you explain or elaborate a little bit on what kind of fear you were facing in that situation?
Patricia Arquette: It was so much fear because so many people have worked so hard on this, and because you don’t want to be one of I think there is 5 of us out there and some of them were against the equal rights amendment. They were from the republican side, some of the lawyers. So to be one of the very few people to argue this, and try to win people over and have them hear you was — it just felt like a lot of pressure but I also felt that same fear or similar fear when I won the Oscar and I called, I used my speech to call for equal pay and equal rights for women. That was scary too, because I knew it’s really frowned upon for you to be political. But I didn’t necessarily want it in a word, for me and my own self. Yes, it’s a lovely thing, thank you very much. It’s an amazing acknowledgment from your peers and your industry. But what if you could take that moment and change millions of people’s lives? So that’s what I wanted to do, I didn’t want to just have something for me, I wanted to have a feast for everyone. I didn’t wanna just celebrate myself, I wanted to celebrate everyone, I wanted everyone to have a better life from that moment. And then when I was presenting in front of the equal rights amendment in front of Congress, I felt this big pressure, like if you blow this, that might not happen for everyone. So and then I had to kind of be nice to myself in my own mind, like hey, you’re gonna do your best! You’ve studied, you know what you’re talking about, you’ve spoken to activists on the ground and all these different areas, I brought all my material with me, I had all my statistics but you also are human and you might not do everything perfect and your heart is in the right place and you have to be nice to yourself too.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: You said you have your heart in the right place. One thing that you’re strongly advocating is the topic of transgen and you have voiced this out within your industry. It has been very difficult not only within your industry but generally in the world for people who are transgen, what are you doing currently to support that?
Patricia Arquette: Well my sister, Alexis, was transgender and she passed away three years ago from AIDS and you know, we don’t talk about it very much or we think AIDS was a crisis that’s been solved, but really it hasn’t, you still have a million people a year die of AIDS and a lot of people don’t have the resources or the access to the medicine that they need and we still need to make more progress till we have a cure. And looking at my sister’s life, when she lived her life as a boy, as an actor in the world, she was maybe the best actor in our family. Of all of us. And to see her then live her truth as a transwoman became very difficult for her to get a job, she dealt with so much discrimination, the threat of violence, just walking down the street, the experience of violence being a transwoman in the world. It made me really aware of that level of discrimination. And it’s very important to me, and recently when I won the Emmy, I talked about jobs for transgender people, because trans people in America and I would imagine everywhere, have the highest likelihood of living on the smallest amount of money a year. Transwoman of color in America has an average income of under 10000 a year. And that’s in deep poverty. So often times, trans people are forced into the sex industry to survive which puts them at great risk. And they all have dreams of what they want to be and industries that they want to be involved in and who they want to be as people, the skills that they want to bring and talents. And they’re being stopped because they’re trans. So I think job opportunities are very important and I am committed to making more trans job opportunities available.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Thank you very much for opening up about this! I really appreciate it! I fully agree this is an important topic and that society should be made aware about this and they shouldn’t be a taboo anymore.
Patricia Arquette: It’s funny because when I was talking in front of Congress about women’s rights, a lot of people who have stopped the progress of women’s rights in America have done so under the threat of you know, transwomen would then be able to go to the bathroom with woman. I spent my life sharing a bathroom with a transwoman, I loved my sister so much you know? I have no fear of transwomen. The unspoken conversation which I talked about in that speech was I know what they’re alluding to is rape. Rape is illegal everywhere, it’s not transwomen that are raping women, it’s — and I said to them there, I said you have a problem with rape everywhere. Rape is your problem. You people are getting raped in churches, people are getting raped everywhere. Rape is your problem, it’s not transwomen that are your problem.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Patricia, what would be your advice for people who are currently under mental distress? What is your advice on what to do?
Patricia Arquette: Well it’s advice I have to give myself too, that we can’t do everything alone, we can’t. we can’t — if you’re struggling with something, you just have to know that we’re all struggling with something and it’s okay to go to professionals and it’s okay to say you need help and it’s okay to get help, there is no shame in that. I think the real problem is that we’ve created this false illusion that everyone is perfect and everyone can handle everything. And we can’t, there’s too many things in life. Life has traumas, and they are hard to process and there’s a whole spectrum of different mental disorders and conditions that we can all deal with, and we need help to do that. And it’s okay to ask for help and it’s okay to seek help and it doesn’t make you any less perfect.
Marta Ra, CEO of Paracelsus Recovery: Thank you, Patricia, for opening up yourself tonight and for visiting us!
Patricia Arquette: Thank you for having me!
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